This second picture shows the very same van in 1977, yes 33 years ago it was captured on standard 8 cine film at a HOT ROD car show. At this time it had the doors hinged at the top, gull wing fashion (with both doors open it was over 13 feet wide). So in a way the old van was saved and has given the various owners over the years a great deal of pleasure and of course it has survived.If you want to see this cine-film in full it is now on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BJ-hTnWwNg its only 4.30 minutes long and the first view of the J is at 3.20 minutes.

